http://159.203.101.162/w/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Magic_Item_Cost_issue 2026-05-14T01:06:05Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.31.1 http://159.203.101.162/w/index.php?title=Magic_Item_Cost_issue&diff=3808&oldid=prev 2014-12-08T21:32:17Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:32, 8 December 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l37" >Line 37:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 37:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># New Formula Parser will make grabbing COST values easier.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; 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LegacyKing http://159.203.101.162/w/index.php?title=Magic_Item_Cost_issue&diff=3807&oldid=prev 2014-12-08T21:23:39Z

<p>Created page with &quot;http://jira.pcgen.org/browse/DATA-2 Magic Item Cost - An ongoing issue for Data/Code since the rules are loose guidelines. However, we can make efforts to be as close as pos...&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>http://jira.pcgen.org/browse/DATA-2<br /> <br /> Magic Item Cost - An ongoing issue for Data/Code since the rules are loose guidelines.<br /> <br /> However, we can make efforts to be as close as possible.<br /> <br /> Here the bonuses for a typical weapon:<br /> * BONUS:ITEMCOST|TYPE=Ammunition|40*PLUSTOTAL*PLUSTOTAL <br /> * BONUS:ITEMCOST|TYPE=Weapon|2000*HEADPLUSTOTAL*HEADPLUSTOTAL <br /> * BONUS:ITEMCOST|TYPE=Ammunition|6|!PRETYPE:1,EQMODTYPE=MasterworkQuality <br /> * BONUS:ITEMCOST|TYPE=Weapon|300|!PRETYPE:1,EQMODTYPE=MasterworkQuality <br /> <br /> Armor has something similar. Those work nicely. But then we leave this next group, the one I think is the trouble spot, to straight values<br /> <br /> * |Ability Bonus (Enhancement) COST:(1000*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Armor Bonus (Enhancement) COST:(1000*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Bonus Spell COST:(1000*(max(%CHOICE,1))*(max(%CHOICE,(1/2))))<br /> * |AC Bonus (Deflection) COST:(2000*%CHOICE*%CHOICE) <br /> * |AC Bonus (Luck) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE) <br /> * |AC Bonus (Insight) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE) <br /> * |AC Bonus (Sacred) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE) <br /> * |AC Bonus (Profane) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE) <br /> * |AC Bonus (Other) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE) <br /> * |Natural Armor Bonus (Enhancement) COST:(2000*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Save Bonus (Resistance) COST:(1000*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Save Bonus (Luck) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Save Bonus (Insight) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE) <br /> * |Save Bonus (Sacred) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Save Bonus (Profane) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Save Bonus (Other) COST:(2500*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Skill Bonus (Competence) COST:(100*%CHOICE*%CHOICE)<br /> * |Spell Resistance COST:10000*(%CHOICE-12)<br /> <br /> The main problem, which I think is easy to now see, is that we have only what we apply to the equipment, no controller per se. Since the affinity is &quot;Is this item Slotless&quot; or &quot;Is this item not for the affinity&quot; is when the 1.5x or 2x comes into play. Also, the 1.5x applies to Second items, not something to easily track. <br /> <br /> '''Solutions:'''<br /> # New Formula Parser will make grabbing COST values easier.<br /> # We need to have better type control, which means we should separate out each bonus into BASE (Correct slot), 1.5x (Wrong Slot) or 2x (Slotless) - this would be better if we had the proposed EQUIPMOD to just assign the correct MOD based upon item TYPE.</div>

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