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=Quorum Meeting=

'''Board of Directors:'''
* CHAIR - Andrew
* CODE - James
* ARCH - Tom
* PR - Paul
* WEB - Anestis

'''Observers:'''
* Zaister
* Moogle001

'''Summary:''' Discussed team reports. Time table for Release schedule with 6.2 slated for December 8th, 2013. Projects have 2 weeks to get any new features in before we go into Betas. Altering Override Option to be on by default and discussed the PRECAMPAIGN and PRERULE support in PCCs.

=Raw Log=
* [15:02] <@[Chair]Andrew> Greetings everyone, welcome to our Board of Director's Meeting, Friday October 25th 1500 hours (PST?)
* [15:02] <@[Chair]Andrew> Our Agenda for today:
* [15:02] <@[Chair]Andrew> *) Team Reports
* [15:02] *** [Web_2nd]Anestis has joined #pcgen
* [15:02] <@[Chair]Andrew> *) James Release Update
* [15:02] <@[Chair]Andrew> *) Open Floor
* [15:03] <@[Chair]Andrew> I'll start off with Admin
* [15:04] <@[Chair]Andrew> Anestis has set up a Forum to play with, sadly, I can't find any Mail2Forum support, but if we want to employ a forum, I've been thinking of a method to subscribe so we can populate the Yahoo Group designated with any messages
* [15:04] <@[Chair]Andrew> Trackers - lots of turn over, people have been closing them out. Otherwise, not much to report there
* [15:05] <@[Chair]Andrew> Anestis - Anything you'd like to comment upon regarding Web Related?
* [15:05] *** Swiftbrook has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 250 seconds
* [15:06] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> We have an issue with the contact form. I've asked Jami to look into it but nor response.
* [15:06] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> Apart from that, everything else seems to be running smoothly.
* [15:06] <@[Chair]Andrew> Excellent
* [15:06] <[PR]Nylanfs> I just made a post to the webteam group
* [15:06] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> We got Jenkins e-mails back on track
* [15:07] <@[Chair]Andrew> Release report - I'll have James cover that in his report
* [15:07] <James[Code_SB]> @Anestis Yes they are working well now
* [15:07] <@[Chair]Andrew> Only issue is Jenkins emails don't see to be hitting _exp
* [15:07] <@[Chair]Andrew> but it's being sent there.
* [15:08] <@[Chair]Andrew> Onto the Content Report
* [15:08] <@[Chair]Andrew> Docs, Well, the Government Shutdown gave Eric plenty of time to get a plethora of updates since the last meeting. :)
* [15:09] <@Zaister> :)
* [15:09] <@[Chair]Andrew> Those have gotten some monkey love. Which is awesome.
* [15:10] <@[Chair]Andrew> OS - Vincent and Stefan have been doing some work on improving these. I'm impressed. I do wish I could find someone to help with an OS redesign for Todd Crapper - the Killshot sheets need it badly
* [15:10] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> The post showed up on my newsfeed in FB
* [15:11] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> Sorry to interrupt, just thought I'd mention it
* [15:11] <@[Chair]Andrew> One of the downsides of supporting the non-d20 systems, we do need OS work.
* [15:11] <@[Chair]Andrew> Data - Where to begin
* [15:11] <@[Chair]Andrew> Rob has finished the data standards update for Pathfinder
* [15:12] <@[Chair]Andrew> we need to get those over on the WIKI
* [15:12] *** [PR]Nylanfs has quit IRC: Read error: Connection reset by peer
* [15:12] <@[Chair]Andrew> Everything loads clean for Pathfinder, including the PFS master load, so awesome job on that front!
* [15:13] <@[Chair]Andrew> Zaister apparently has slave monkeys in his back pocket, cause he's flooded NFD with several sets at once. :P
* [15:13] *** [PR]Nylanfs has joined #pcgen
* [15:13] <[PR]Nylanfs> :)
* [15:13] <@[Chair]Andrew> If I can get him to share, that'd be great :)
* [15:13] <@Zaister> I just committed the stuff I've started on because I needed it for my campaigns :)
* [15:14] <@Zaister> and then added the JIRAs for those sets
* [15:14] <@[Chair]Andrew> Isn't that how it always begins?
* [15:14] <@Zaister> I guess
* [15:14] <@[Chair]Andrew> Anyways, we have a few new sets to clear, but nothing that will hold up the release tonight
* [15:15] <@[Chair]Andrew> I *think* that covers most of Data, I'm sure I'm forgetting something. Lots of bugs fixed and Features implemented (But I don't have the stats)
* [15:15] <@[Chair]Andrew> Questions thus far?
* [15:16] <@[Chair]Andrew> (Paul, you ready to go next?)
* [15:16] <@[Chair]Andrew> -Oh new data Monkey joined up. :)
* [15:16] <[PR]Nylanfs> Yep
* [15:17] <@[Chair]Andrew> He goes by 'Moni' in Jira
* [15:17] * @[Chair]Andrew passes talking stick to Paul
* [15:17] <[PR]Nylanfs> Lets see, Several datasets were cleared since last meeting, Largest set was the Killshot set.
* [15:17] <@Zaister> irritating name, "Moni" is used in Germany as a diminutive for Monika, definitely female :)
* [15:18] <[PR]Nylanfs> The permissions for Minotaur Games was firmed up and Stefan is working on those
* [15:18] <@Zaister> I have more coming of those
* [15:19] <[PR]Nylanfs> I'll let Jason know :)
* [15:19] <@Zaister> :)
* [15:19] <@[Chair]Andrew> Monele better?
* [15:20] <@[Chair]Andrew> And excellent Paul:)
* [15:20] <[PR]Nylanfs> I think that's about it from PR
* [15:20] <@Zaister> I was just kidding, I'll get along with Moni, too
* [15:20] <[PR]Nylanfs> Any questions?
* [15:20] <James[Code_SB]> None from me
* [15:20] <@[Chair]Andrew> None Here. I think James is up next unless Tom has anything he wants to report.
* [15:21] <[Arch_SB]thpr> Nothing really on my end, now that I look at the schedule, I think it's more bug hunting season than anything :)
* [15:21] <James[Code_SB]> Indeed!
* [15:22] <James[Code_SB]> Code report
* [15:22] <@[Chair]Andrew> Yup, open season on bugs!
* [15:22] <James[Code_SB]> Welcome to Gabriel Sorrel (aka moogle001) who joined the dev team this week and made his first commit.
* [15:22] <moogle001> Hello all
* [15:22] <moogle001> Don't mind me lurking over here
* [15:22] <@Zaister> welcome!
* [15:22] <James[Code_SB]> Gabriel, you should chat with Tom too when time permits - he runs the architecture side of things
* [15:23] <James[Code_SB]> A major milestone has been reached - all old GUI code has been migrated to either the new UI or to gmgen if it was specific to that area. The pcgen.gui package has been deleted!
* [15:23] <@[Chair]Andrew> Woot!
* [15:23] <[Arch_SB]thpr> nice!!
* [15:23] <James[Code_SB]> I'm very happy to have that one wrapped up
* [15:23] <James[Code_SB]> We also now have a very frequently requested LST function, which is conditional loading of sources, based on PRECAMPAIGN and PRERULE.
* [15:23] <James[Code_SB]> I've started work on support for exporting using Freemarker templates and have a working prototype. I'll put that into a sandbox once it is a little bit tidier and I have a useful export sheet as an example. I'd expect that to be included in the early 6.3 builds.
* [15:24] <@[Chair]Andrew> nice, that's awesome!
* [15:24] <James[Code_SB]> Code stats for the fortnight: Features: 5 requested and 8 implemented, Bugs: 12 reported and 10 resolved, New tag: 2 requested and 4 resolved
* [15:24] <James[Code_SB]> Overall we are looking good for the 6.2 release, only blockers are a couple of converter bugs to be ironed out
* [15:25] <James[Code_SB]> Any questions?
* [15:25] <@[Chair]Andrew> ETA for Converter? I'll give it an early run on my personal stuff
* [15:25] <James[Code_SB]> It'll be high on the list, but I might Tom's help for one issue
* [15:26] <@[Chair]Andrew> okay
* [15:26] <@[Chair]Andrew> Did you have any comments for the release schedule? No major changes?
* [15:27] <James[Code_SB]> I'll talk a bit about that
* [15:27] <@[Chair]Andrew> floor is yours :)
* [15:27] <James[Code_SB]> I'll put out 6.1.8 today - that should be the last alpha.
* [15:28] <James[Code_SB]> There is still time for final feature additions though - they get frozen as at the first beta, which is our 'feature complete' mark for the 6.2 release.
* [15:28] <James[Code_SB]> See http://wiki.pcgen.org/Release_6.2.x#Release_dates for the schedule
* [15:28] <James[Code_SB]> but we are aiming to have 6.2.0 out on 8 December.
* [15:29] <@[Chair]Andrew> Merry Christmas, and in time for Ennies?
* [15:29] <James[Code_SB]> Everyone happy with that timetable?
* [15:29] <James[Code_SB]> Absolutely
* [15:29] <@[Chair]Andrew> I'm lovin' that schedule
* [15:30] <[Arch_SB]thpr> yes looks good
* [15:30] <@Zaister> yeah
* [15:30] <[PR]Nylanfs> Ennies are up till next Easter I believe
* [15:30] <James[Code_SB]> ok, you'll probably want this talking stick thingy back then
* [15:31] <@[Chair]Andrew> Thanks...
* [15:31] <@[Chair]Andrew> Okay, so we have a week left after the release tonight for any last minute features or data entries
* [15:31] <@[Chair]Andrew> correct?
* [15:31] <James[Code_SB]> 2 weeks
* [15:32] <@[Chair]Andrew> 2 weeks, okay.
* [15:32] <@[Chair]Andrew> Alright, open floor - any questions, comments, concerns or feedback?
* [15:33] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> Just to ad regarding the Numenera discussion from a few weeks back
* [15:33] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> They do say not he Fan use Policy that if you think your stuff is better than the official stuff to e-mail them at fanfare@montecookgames.com
* [15:34] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> But, I think if we do end up doing a Numenera data set, we might need to purchase a full license from Monte Cook, which might be prohibitive
* [15:34] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> But the best thing to do is e-mail them and ask them and see what they say
* [15:34] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> One of their FAQs is
* [15:34] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> What if my [GM screen, app, character sheet, description of a particular rule, or whatever] is OBVIOUSLY SO MUCH BETTER than the official version?
* [15:34] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> Sorry, but the same rules apply. If you’re completely convinced that your version is distinctly superior, though, by all means shoot us a copy. Maybe we can talk about an official license!
* [15:35] <[PR]Nylanfs> They do have a small publisher license we could use for $50 I think.
* [15:35] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> So maybe making a call data set covering one of the types, some foci and descriptors and sending it to them might get something going.
* [15:35] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> The publisher license is only for fiction or adventures
* [15:35] <[PR]Nylanfs> But I believe the same rules apply about not copying text from the book
* [15:36] <@Zaister> yeah Monte has never been know for his full support of OGC
* [15:36] <[Web_2nd]Anestis> They state on the NinthWorldHub the best thing to do is to e-mail them. They can then say yay or nay
* [15:36] <[PR]Nylanfs> If somebody wants to make a sample dataset I'll approach them
* [15:37] <@[Chair]Andrew> Don't look at me, I need a vacation
* [15:38] <[PR]Nylanfs> :)
* [15:38] <@[Chair]Andrew> James - Is there an OPTION tag to force the option to allow newer sources to override older sources?
* [15:38] <James[Code_SB]> Yes I think there might be a bit of a breather after the 6.2 release - it has been pretty hectic
* [15:38] <@[Chair]Andrew> Mark is asking
* [15:39] <James[Code_SB]> If the users allows it, yes
* [15:39] <@[Chair]Andrew> You have the syntax for that?
* [15:39] <@[Chair]Andrew> You can shoot it off list....
* [15:40] <[PR]Nylanfs> Why not just make it on by default?
* [15:40] <@[Chair]Andrew> I'd be for it, saves me headaches
* [15:40] <@[Chair]Andrew> James?
* [15:40] <James[Code_SB]> We could do that too
* [15:40] <@Zaister> you used to be so opposed to that switch
* [15:41] <@[Chair]Andrew> I was, but I'm allowed to change my mind
* [15:41] <James[Code_SB]> :)
* [15:41] <@Zaister> of course :)
* [15:41] <@[Chair]Andrew> I live in a free country. :P
* [15:41] <James[Code_SB]> Hopefully with conditional loading we can reduce the need for it
* [15:41] <@Zaister> that's a great improvement
* [15:42] <@Zaister> now we just need to be able to set house rules from a PCC
* [15:42] <@[Chair]Andrew> I still need it for debugging, but the vast majority of our users might start sending us bug reports now that we've been forced to drop the no dupes standards
* [15:42] <@[Chair]Andrew> So, yes James, let's make it ON by default
* [15:43] <[Arch_SB]thpr> Wait, what?
* [15:43] <[Arch_SB]thpr> Forced to drop the no dupes standards?
* [15:43] <@[Chair]Andrew> Pathfinder is replete with duplicate items, that it's impossible to not have overlap these days
* [15:43] <@Zaister> Tom: dupes across data sets, not in memory
* [15:44] <[Arch_SB]thpr> ok. [sits back down]
* [15:44] <@Zaister> Spells and some other object had a problem that dupes were not recognized but that has now been fixed
* [15:45] <@[Chair]Andrew> Mismatched Case when a .MOD in equipment
* [15:45] <@[Chair]Andrew> James caught that
* [15:45] <@[Chair]Andrew> Anyone else have anything to discuss?
* [15:46] <@[Chair]Andrew> *Bangs Gavel* Thanks for coming everyone, this meeting is adjourned.

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