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=Formal Meeting for Release and Team Discussions (PCGen 6.03 BETA Cycle)=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Board Members Present==&lt;br /&gt;
* Arch - Tom Parker&lt;br /&gt;
* Code - James Dempsey&lt;br /&gt;
* Chair - Andrew Maitland&lt;br /&gt;
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==SUMMARY:==&lt;br /&gt;
* Team Reports (JIRA Numbers for last 28 days)&lt;br /&gt;
* Release schedule: Beta Monday (Aug 17th/18th), beta next weekend (23rd Aug), RC on 30th Aug, 6.4.0 release 6 Sept.&lt;br /&gt;
* JAVA changed to 1.7 on September 7th&lt;br /&gt;
* GIT/SVN change discussion scheduled for the Sept 12th/13th Meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==RAW LOG:==&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:04] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Greeting everyone, welcome to our Board of Directors meeting for August 15th/16th 2014&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; (Bangs Gavel)&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Our Agenda is:&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; 1) Team Discussion - Readiness for next release&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; 2) Outstanding Blockers for release&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; 3) Other high priority discussions&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; 4) Open Forum if time remains&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:06] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; James, let's begin with you. *Passes talking stick*&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:08] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Stats for the last 4 weeks: code features: 6 requested and 5 resolved; Bugs: 17 reported and 17 resolved; New Tags: Issues: 2 requested and 1 resolved&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:08] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Most activity has been in bug fixing and output improvements. I've contributed a fair bit to the OS issues too. There are still a few code bugs which it would be best to fix before a stable release.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:08] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; On the LST Editor front, progress is slow with some UI design issues to be resolved. If we want to include it in 6.4, there might be a reasonable delay.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:09] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Questions?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:09] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; How significant of a delay are we anticipating?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:10] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Hard to say - it has been hard to get traction on the editor and my time will be scarce very shortly&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:10] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; I would recommend against a delay&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:10] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; While I'd really prefer not we may be better to progress without it unless there is extra help on that front&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:11] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; What type of help are you looking for?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:11] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; You want me to contact Connor and see if he can give a hand? Otherwise I'm with Tom on the extended delay.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:11] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; and is it well defined enough that I can pick up some of it, or does it require too much background&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:11] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I think at time time just someone as a sounding board would be most helpful&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:12] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; but given our target was to have the release out by the end of August I think we should proceed with that and not squeeze the editor in at the last minute&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:13] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Yeah, disappointed to not have an editor, but we shouldn't hold up everything for it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:13] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Can we focus that remaining time on the OS sheet conversions?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:15] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I'd be able to do one more conversion i that time - it is around 6+ hours per sheet from experience&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:15] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I'd be happy to sort out the build to merge previews and output also&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:15] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; However you feel best suited to handle the time&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:16] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; (That's it for me on questions)&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:16] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Tom - you ready to go next?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:17] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; sure&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:17] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; Arch is actually easy, since it kind of stops at Beta :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:17] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; So no real news on that front&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:18] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; I guess I do have one more question for James... Do you have a list of the issues you think should be best to fix?  I can help look into them, since I'm really in code-mode at the moment as we approach release&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:18] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Sure, I'll send you a list&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:18] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; ok, that would be great&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:18] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; I don't have anything else... any questions for me&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:19] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; None here...&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:19] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Guess it's my turn&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:20] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Admin - I revamped some of the Data Trackers to use the more conventional JIRA system to display &amp;quot;RE-OPENED&amp;quot; as a Resolution. I also cleaned up the workflow so the path was a little easier on the monkey dealing with it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:20] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Website - no news to report on that front.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:20] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Content&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:21] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Eric has been fixing up the docs. I was looking over them and opened a couple of bugs for minor typos&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:22] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; OS - Tackling minor &amp;quot;bugs&amp;quot; and cleaning up the sheets. Waiting on conversion before tackling certain issues with the sheets.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:22] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Data - according to Jira we have 19 issues resolved in the last 30 days.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:23] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Some unrecorded bugs since not everyone is logging bugs in the system before pushing in fixes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:23] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; (I sent a friendly reminder to the lists about that).&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:23] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; At this point I'm smacking Bugs as soon as they are raised.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:24] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Questions?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:24] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Andrew, the stats I am seeing for the last 28 days are data bugs: 50 reported, 59 resolved, data features, 7 requested, 7 resolved, OS issues, 14 reported, 62 resolved&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:25] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; So a massive effort&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:25] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Huh, wonder why the roadmap is showing different numbers then...&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:26] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; That's only for the upcoming release, not what is already released&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:26] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Ah, that would explain it...&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:27] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; I presume no questions - PR Report (Paul G. is at GenCon and should be meeting with PCGen Fans as we speak).&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:27] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Nice&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:27] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; *Waves at Paul*&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:28] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Yeah, I got a nice little reminder asking if I would be making it. ;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:28] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; On to #2 - Blocker Issues?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:28] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; James this is your arena.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:30] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I think the system is generally in good shape. There are a couple of issues from July that it would be good to fix if we can but nothing that holds up the release that I know of&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:31] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I've even given GMGen a run and it is working pretty well&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:31] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Nice&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:31] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Data is running clean to my knowledge, no blockers on my end. Minor bugs that would be nice for the users - I'm sure - but nothing that prevents release.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:33] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; We doing another beta or we feeling good about RC then?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:33] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; We'll do another beta I think&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:34] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Lets say beta next weekend (23rd Aug), RC on 30th Aug, 6.4.0 release 6 Sep&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:35] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Sound ok?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:35] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Sounds fine to me. Why an additional week for the next beta though?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:35] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; or we can do an extra beta on Monday&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:35] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; If you want the code and OS changes, they have to be in a beta&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:36] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Fair enough. Extra beta on Monday sounds good.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:36] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; ok&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:36] &amp;lt;Tom[Arch_SB]&amp;gt; works for me too&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:37] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; That moves on to #3 - High Priority Business&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:37] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Anyone have anything they want to discuss?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:39] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; I have two topics - GIT usage for features/branches (James is likely a better person to speak on this subject) and clarifying the Java will upgrade to 1.7 once we branch 6.4&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:40] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Git is a big change and deserves a full prepared discussion&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:41] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; These days I am far more comfortable with Git as I use it regularly at my day job&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:41] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; So, put it on agenda for a Deep Dive then? Or do we want the remaining meetings just for Release discussions?&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:41] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; However such a move is a big step&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:42] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I'd prefer release discussions personally as that should be our focus&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:42] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; On Java 7, I would recommend switching the day after the 6.4.0 release&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:42] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; That's why I asked. Post Sept 6th's release then for GIT discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:43] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Sounds good&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:43] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; And the Java changes the day after 6.4.0 is released into the wild...&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:44] *** Nirgali42 has quit IRC: Quit: Lost terminal&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:44] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; That's pretty much it for me. Segway - do we know why the release dates on SF is incorrect? (I have an open tracker or two about it from users)&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:45] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I haven't had the bandwidth to examine it&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:46] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Okay. When I'm not miserable with allergies, and track down my access codes, I'll take a look then.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:46] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; The html is in svn&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:46] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; True, but the real code is on that evil to access server.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:47] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Trunk/website/03_get_pcgen.php&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:47] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; and those pages are still hosted on the sourceforge site&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:47] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Okay, I'll take a look at it then.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:47] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Looks like we'll be ending early today. :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:48] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; Unless you or Tom have anything further, I say we can wrap this meeting up.&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:48] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Nothing from me&lt;br /&gt;
* [17:49] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Andrew&amp;gt; (Bangs Gavel) This meeting is closed. &lt;br /&gt;
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